1:04:26
Madonna exploit her
sexuality on her own terms.
1:04:29
What does it mean to exploit
your sexuality on your own terms?
1:04:32
It means you name the price.
1:04:34
Madonna is a successful
business person.
1:04:36
I like old-fashioned,
straight-ahead rock'n'roll.
1:04:39
She sings okay.
1:04:40
The representation of
female sexuality
1:04:45
that she offers is of strength
and self-determination.
1:04:49
I don't listen to much
new popular music myself.
1:04:52
Love songs are usually
about weakness.
1:04:55
You can learn a lot about love
from popular music.
1:05:00
Is there a difference between exploiting
your own body for profit
1:05:03
and having someone else
exploit for you?
1:05:08
Everyone is involved with exploitation...
the person whose body it is,
1:05:12
the salesperson, and the audience
that's entertained.
1:05:15
The significant distinction
is who earns more money,
1:05:18
the exploited body
or the salesperson?
1:05:22
- And what about the audience?
- What about them.
1:05:26
The nature of exploitation
never improves. It only changes.
1:05:31
Where did you read that?
1:05:32
Is is a feminist achievement
for a woman to maintain
1:05:35
such control over her own career?
1:05:38
I thought we were
talking about music.
1:05:41
Exploitation of sexuality
has achieved a new... respectability
1:05:47
because some of those women
whose bodies are being exploited
1:05:49
have gained control
over that exploitation.
1:05:52
- They earn more money.
- They call the shots.
1:05:55
- They're not thought of as victims.
- Lf they earn most of the money, no.
1:05:59
They probably don't think of
themselves as victims, either.