1:32:22
- Marty, how are you responding
to the people
1:32:24
who say this is all
an exaggeration?
1:32:27
- It's, you know...
it's documented.
1:32:29
And really, every word I say
1:32:31
is directly quoted
from Ussher's own journal.
1:32:33
- Marty!
1:32:35
- That's where I met them,
right on the train.
1:32:37
- To Ararat.
- Yeah. They were shooting
1:32:39
a commercial.
- A commercial?
1:32:40
- I became friends with the
cameraman and I told him
1:32:42
that I wanted to get an image
with this. This.
1:32:45
I wanted to get a shot of Ararat
in the picture.
1:32:47
- What for?
- Forthe film. I thought
1:32:49
it was something we could use.
- How? The film is finished.
1:32:51
- I wasn't thinking about that.
1:32:53
He had to bribe a soldier
to take us up.
1:32:56
That's a military road, okay?
You can't just go up there.
1:32:58
That's his voice. You can
actually hear it on the...
1:33:01
We went up about halfway and
then... We shot this footage
1:33:04
from there. On film.
On this film.
1:33:07
- Why didn't you tell me
this before?
1:33:10
- I had to tell you
the other story.
1:33:12
- Why?
1:33:13
- Because it meant
something to me.
1:33:30
- So this voice on the tape,
1:33:33
this crew person,
1:33:38
gave you the film,
1:33:41
let you use his camera,
1:33:42
bribed a soldier...
1:33:45
and then drove you up
Mount Ararat.
1:33:49
- Yes.
1:33:52
- Did he ask you to do him
a favour in return?
1:33:55
- Who?
1:33:57
- Raffi...