:15:03
- I never knew him,
but I knew of him.
:15:05
He left here before I got here.
I've only lived here seven years
:15:08
off and on.
- He was about the same age
:15:10
as you, so you must have people
in your class--
:15:12
- A friend of mine knows him,
he was in class with him.
:15:15
He's lived here all his life.
:15:17
- I went to school with him
and it shocked me to hear it
:15:20
on the news.
:15:21
That especially a kid from here
would be doing that.
:15:25
- I didn't last too long
in high school.
:15:27
I got kicked out,
I got expelled.
:15:29
- Why was that?
- I had a run-in with a kid
:15:31
one time and I pulled a weapon
on him, I pulled a gun on him.
:15:35
- What kind of gun?
- Nine-millimetre.
:15:37
I could've made a mess
out of that situation.
:15:39
- Could've been worse.
- Could've been a lot worse.
:15:41
- Could've been Eric Harris.
- It could've been.
:15:43
- So they kicked you out?
- Yeah, they kicked me out
:15:45
for 380 days or 165 days,
whatever a full school year is.
:15:49
- For the longest time, that's
what my plan was, to move out
:15:53
to Colorado.
- Colorado?
:15:55
- 'Cause I've got family
out there.
:15:58
Matter of fact,
one of my uncles is a janitor
:16:00
for Columbine School.
:16:01
- Really?
- Yeah.
:16:03
- After Columbine,
what was it like here in Oscoda?
:16:06
- My name was second-highest
on the bomb list,
:16:08
because of the reputation
you get in this town.
:16:11
- Why? You mean
they did a list of--
:16:14
- Of suspects.
- Of students who potentially--
:16:16
- Yeah.
- ...would call in a bomb threat
:16:17
after Columbine?
- Yes.
:16:19
- And you were number two
on the list?
:16:21
- I was second or third
on the list, yeah.
:16:23
- Why is that?
- Because the whole fact is,
:16:27
like I said, this town
really gets people down.
:16:30
- Yeah, but why
did they single you out?
:16:32
- Because I was a troubled kid.
- You were in trouble in school?
:16:36
- Oh, yeah.
Why did they put you
:16:38
number two on their list,
after Columbine,
:16:41
of the students
that could be a threat?
:16:45
Come on, there must be a reason.
- Well, okay. The thing is,
:16:48
I have a thing, it's called
the "Anarchist Cookbook."
:16:50
It shows you how to make bombs
and stuff like that.
:16:53
If there's anything
that went wrong,
:16:55
they're gonna come to me first.
:16:57
And I don't need that.
- Just 'cause you owned a copy
:16:59
of the book?
- Just because I own a copy--