:27:00
He made me format it.
I formatted it.
:27:02
I had to bring my computer
in and show him
:27:03
that I hadn't brought it home.
:27:05
So he was absolutely positive,
100%, that it was not
:27:08
touched at all in any way,
form, shape whatsoever.
:27:11
And how did he know that
you brought it home?
:27:16
He accounted for
all the disks that were there.
:27:20
And since he flipped
through, he's like,
:27:21
"Who the fuck took this? Tell me
now, or I'm gonna kill you all!"
:27:24
And he had a knife, and he
was waving a knife around.
:27:26
I was like, "I did it!"
:27:30
My general recollection
of the classes
:27:33
is basically a positive one,
is a pleasant one.
:27:36
The types of behaviors
which were described,
:27:38
which were, well, just
downright satanic in nature.
:27:42
I mean, they make him sound like
some kind of brutal sadist,
:27:45
whereas, you know, I had just
always thought of him
:27:47
as being kind of a nebbish.
:27:50
I think, as someone
who took the classes,
:27:52
it was just hard to picture
even that going on,
:27:54
because I did have
a good experience.
:27:56
And I didn't, you know,
see anything, you know,
:27:58
remotely like,
:28:00
you know, like child
molestation
:28:02
or child abuse or any
child anything going on.
:28:05
What took place in
Arnold's classes
:28:07
was pretty much just
straight computer lessons.
:28:10
I mean, as ordinary
and as boring
:28:12
as you could
possibly imagine it.
:28:14
It was just generally
a free-for-all.
:28:17
Everybody could see
what was going on,
:28:21
and very often they
would participate
:28:23
in these sort of mass games
in the classroom.
:28:27
There was a game there
that was called "Leapfrog. "
:28:30
And this one really got to me.
:28:33
They would play
leapfrog in the class.
:28:36
They'd actually have
their clothes off.
:28:38
And we associate leapfrog like
you do when you were a kid,
:28:42
one guy jumping over another
guy, but the fact is
:28:44
it means everybody's butt's
up in the air, so to speak.
:28:47
The very nature of these
charges is so absurd.
:28:51
It seems almost like some
kind of grotesque fantasy.
:28:56
Yeah. Leapfrog.
:28:57
I remember about that.