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and I don't know how much time
we'll need for those wounds to heal.
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I am absolutely sure
that in that revision
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we'll all have things for which
we have to ask forgiveness.
1:34:11
I've got no doubt about that.
1:34:13
ETA has stated very clearly
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the conditions under which
it would cease the violence.
1:34:19
The fact is, ETA is suffering
from a terminal illness.
1:34:22
The day Madrid says,
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"The Basques
will decide their future
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and we will respect
what the Basque people decide".
1:34:29
I have got no objective reason
to believe that,
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even if the right
to self-determination is recognized,
1:34:35
they won't think they should
guarantee the exercise of that right
1:34:39
and continue the armed struggle.
1:34:42
It isn't sovereignty.
1:34:43
It's letting
the Basque people decide.
1:34:46
I don't believe them.
1:34:50
The right to self-determination,
on a conceptual level,
1:34:53
has always been clear to the PNV.
1:34:55
It's a basic aim
of all nationalism.
1:34:58
This right has been used,
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not just in the colonial
expressions of the 70s,
1:35:03
but also to explain
the reunification of Germany,
1:35:05
the Irish peace process...
1:35:07
No one who operates outside
international law
1:35:11
has got the right
to self-determination.
1:35:14
We mustn't forget
that self-determination
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was voted in the Basque Parliament
in 1990.
1:35:21
It's the breaking
of a co-existence pact.
1:35:24
It's betting on the decomposition
of the institutions
1:35:27
which have helped
understanding
1:35:28
between nationalist
and non-nationalist Basques.
1:35:31
What strikes me is that
they state with such certainty
1:35:35
what this society supposedly wants
for everyone,
1:35:39
but there is no way
they'll give this society
1:35:41
the right to express itself.
1:35:44
The unilateral breaking
of those agreements,
1:35:48
constitution, statutes, etc.,
1:35:50
supposes that everyone else
has got that right.
1:35:53
The Basque Country is small,
but it's modern, powerful,
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with the highest income
and the best industry in Spain.
1:35:59
I think it's been amply proved