:36:00
had to be printed.
:36:01
And they were printed
exclusively by IBM
:36:04
and the profits were
recovered just after the war
:36:09
I really do believe that
particular accusation
:36:12
has been fairly discredited
as a serious accusation.
:36:16
They used equipment
:36:18
that is a fact
but how they got it
:36:25
how much co operation
they got
:36:27
and any kind
of collusion
:36:28
trying to connect dots
that are not connected
:36:30
I think thats the part
that is discredited.
:36:35
Generally you sell computers
:36:39
and they are used
in a variety of ways
:36:41
and you always
hope they are
:36:43
using the more
positive ways possible.
:36:46
If you ever found out
theyre used in ways
:36:48
that are not positive
:36:50
then you would hope you
would stop supporting that
:36:54
but you know do
you always know?
:36:56
Can you always tell?
:36:57
Can you always find out?
:37:02
IBM would
of course say
:37:04
they had no control over
its German subsidiaries.
:37:06
But here on
October 9th 1941
:37:09
a letter is being
written directly
:37:11
to Thomas J. Watson
with all sorts of detail
:37:14
of the activity of
the German subsidiary
:37:17
none of these
machines were sold
:37:20
they were all
leased by IBM.
:37:22
They had to be serviced
on site once a month
:37:25
even if that was
at a concentration camp.
:37:28
This is a typical contract
with IBM and the Third Reich.
:37:32
Which was instituted in 1942.
:37:35
It's not with the Dutch
subsidiary
:37:37
it's not with the German
subsidiary.
:37:39
It is with IBM
corporation in New York.
:37:44
You know as it happens
I know that story.
:37:49
I discussed it more than once
with old Mr. Watson
:37:53
and I was around
at the time.
:37:55
Im not saying that Watson
didnt know
:37:58
that the German government
used punch cards.