:32:04
It's you.
:32:06
I've heard that.
:32:07
-And this is Augustine?
-Yeah.
:32:10
My mother said that he never would have
made it to America if it weren't for her.
:32:15
And she's from Trachimbrod?
:32:17
Or somewhere near there.
:32:19
This is Kolki. My grandmother's shtetl.
:32:21
"Shtetl"?
:32:23
It's a village.
:32:24
It's Yiddish, it means "village. "
It doesn't seem to be far from Trachimbrod.
:32:28
That's why I was thinking
it might be called Sofiewka now.
:32:35
Why do you make such a rigid search?
:32:40
I guess I just wanted to see
where my grandfather grew up...
:32:45
...where I would be now
if he hadn't come to America.
:32:48
You would be Ukrainian, like me.
:32:51
Only not like me, because you would be
a farmer from some unimpressive town...
:32:55
-... and I am from Odessa.
-I see.
:33:00
And did your grandparents ever return
to Ukraine?
:33:03
God, no. My grandmother would go crazy
if she knew I was here.
:33:06
Why?
:33:08
She didn't think it was safe.
:33:10
She said that before the war,
Ukraine was just as bad as Berlin.
:33:14
Jews weren't exactly popular in Ukraine.
:33:17
When the Nazis invaded, she actually
thought it would be an improvement.
:33:21
Who told you this?
:33:25
My grandmother.
:33:26
Why did she say this?
:33:31
I don't know. It's just how she felt.
:33:36
Grandfather...
:33:37
...he says Ukrainians were
anti-Semitic before the war.
:33:41
Is it true?
:33:46
Grandfather?