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An artist has got to be careful
never really to arrive at a place...
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where he thinks he's "at" somewhere.
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You always have to realize
that you're constantly...
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in the state of becoming, you know?
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And, as long as you can stay in that realm,
you'll sort of be all right.
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I can't self-analyze my own work,
and I wasn't going to cater to the crowd...
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because I knew certain people would like it,
and certain people didn't like it.
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I had gotten in the door
when no one was looking.
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I was in there now,
and there was nothing anybody...
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from then on, could ever do about it.
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There's a time when the operation
of the machine becomes so odious...
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makes you so sick at heart
that you can't take part.
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You can't even passively take part,
and you've got to put your bodies...
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upon the gears and upon the wheels,
upon the levers, upon all the apparatus...
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and you've got to make it stop,
and you've got to indicate to the people...
:18:53
who run it, to the people who own it,
that unless you're free...
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the machine will be prevented
from working at all.
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The police have got Mario,
they are pulling him away.
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The police have pulled Mario away...
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All of us felt that those folks
before didn't get it.
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We were surrounded...
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by people who were insensitive
to the need for change.
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And that's why Peter, Paul and Mary,
and Bob Dylan, Joan Baez...
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all of whom were about the same age,
were put in positions of leadership...
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because there was an identification
amongst the college students.
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I felt it all over America.
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You know, wherever in America you went,
you felt that things were happening...
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in an Olympian type of way...
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in which children were beyond
their parents' command.
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He tried to exercise free speech...
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Sometime around that period of time
I was painting in Berkeley...
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and the phone rang,
and I think this was 1964.
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The phone rang, it was Bob and he said:
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"I have to do these shows,
you want to come?"
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I said, "Well, I'm painting pictures".