:14:00
He can still be useful.
:14:01
I'm afraid not.
His mind is in total collapse.
:14:04
He's in a state of catatonic shock
and in a home for the criminally insane.
:14:08
Why do you say "alleged murderer"?
:14:10
That's just my personal view.
:14:13
A short while ago at the asylum,
I succeeded in rousing Hobart.
:14:16
Under hypnosis,
he produced this drawing.
:14:19
It's crude, but remarkably similar
to these copies...
:14:22
of old woodcuts
and medieval drawings...
:14:24
of a fiire demon invoked
by witchcraft to destroy an enemy.
:14:28
You mean you think that thing
committed the murder?
:14:32
I thought the purpose of our convention
was to disprove that type of thinking.
:14:36
- Yes, but Mark says...
- I'll speak for myself, Llyod.
:14:40
I'm a scientist also, Dr. Holden.
:14:43
I know the value
of the cold light of reason.
:14:46
But I also know the deep shadows
that light can cast.
:14:50
The shadows that can
blind men to truth.
:14:52
What truth? Myths.
:14:54
Demonology and witchcraft
have been discredited...
:14:56
since the Middle Ages.
:14:58
I wrote a book about it.
That's why I'm here.
:15:00
Then explain how
an uneducated farmer like Hobart...
:15:03
could know anything
about this creature...
:15:05
whose legend has persisted through
civilization after civilization.
:15:09
Babylonian, Baal, Egyptian...
:15:11
Sethtyphon, Persian, Asmodeus...
:15:14
Hebraich, Moloch...
:15:18
Come in.
:15:18
Come in.
:15:24
Good evening. KT Kumar, Bombay,
apologizes for being late.
:15:28
That's quite all right, Kumar.
We're just about to begin.
:15:31
- This is Dr. Holden.
- How do you do?
:15:34
Dr. Holden.
I'm very pleased to meet you.
:15:36
Your work on hypnotism
is a great favorite of mine.
:15:39
Thank you. Now, we were just talking
about devils and demons.
:15:44
What are your views on the subject?
:15:46
I believe in them.
Absolutely.
:15:51
Well, now that we're all here,
let's get down to business.
:15:57
Excuse me.
:15:59
- Hello?
- Holden?