1:21:02
We didn't have Burger King
or McDonald's.
1:21:05
We had automats where you put a
quarter in and you'd get...
1:21:09
...a piece of pie or a sandwich
you could see through a window.
1:21:13
We didn't have graffiti,
but we had this guy Kilroy....
1:21:16
Mr. Kramer is a very devoted father.
1:21:19
He spends a great deal of time
with Billy.
1:21:22
He reads to Billy a lot.
1:21:24
They play together,
they talk all the time.
1:21:28
He's a wonderful father.
1:21:30
Thank you.
No further questions.
1:21:33
Mrs. Phelps, how long
have you known Joanna Kramer?
1:21:36
About six years, ever since she and
Ted moved into the building.
1:21:40
How often did you see
Joanna Kramer and her son?
1:21:44
I haven't seen them together now for
about a year and a half, but...
1:21:49
...back then I saw them two or
three times a week.
1:21:52
My oldest daughter and Billy
play together.
1:21:55
Can you describe the relationship
between Joanna Kramer and her son?
1:21:59
It was good.
1:22:00
Joanna was a very good mother.
1:22:02
Both Ted and Joanna are very--
1:22:04
Did Mrs. Kramer discuss her
relationship with her ex-husband?
1:22:08
Yes.
1:22:10
Can you tell the court
exactly what she said?
1:22:14
Joanna wasn't happy for many reasons--
1:22:16
Did you ever hear her say Mr. Kramer
was insensitive to his son's needs?
1:22:25
Would you answer the question?
1:22:28
-I didn't hear you.
-Yes, but that was before--
1:22:31
Did you ever encourage
her to leave her husband?
1:22:34
No, I did not.
1:22:38
Several days before she left,
did you say to her:
1:22:41
" If you're in this much pain,
you owe it to yourself to leave"?
1:22:47
-I didn't think Joanna--
-Did you say to her:
1:22:50
" If you're in this much pain,
you owe it to yourself to leave"?
1:22:54
-Yes, but she was my friend--
-No further questions.
1:22:59
Mrs. Phelps, you may step down.