1:22:00
Joanna was a very good mother.
1:22:02
Both Ted and Joanna are very--
1:22:04
Did Mrs. Kramer discuss her
relationship with her ex-husband?
1:22:08
Yes.
1:22:10
Can you tell the court
exactly what she said?
1:22:14
Joanna wasn't happy for many reasons--
1:22:16
Did you ever hear her say Mr. Kramer
was insensitive to his son's needs?
1:22:25
Would you answer the question?
1:22:28
-I didn't hear you.
-Yes, but that was before--
1:22:31
Did you ever encourage
her to leave her husband?
1:22:34
No, I did not.
1:22:38
Several days before she left,
did you say to her:
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" If you're in this much pain,
you owe it to yourself to leave"?
1:22:47
-I didn't think Joanna--
-Did you say to her:
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" If you're in this much pain,
you owe it to yourself to leave"?
1:22:54
-Yes, but she was my friend--
-No further questions.
1:22:59
Mrs. Phelps, you may step down.
1:23:01
Joanna, things are not the same now.
1:23:04
Ted is not the same man.
1:23:05
-You don't know how hard he's tried--
-Mrs. Phelps!
1:23:08
They're beautiful together.
1:23:10
The witness is asked to step down.
1:23:12
If you could see them together...
1:23:14
...maybe you wouldn't be here now.
1:23:16
Mrs. Phelps, that will be all!
1:23:24
I'm sorry.
1:23:27
When you were talking--
1:23:29
When my ex-wife was talking about how
unhappy she was during our marriage...
1:23:34
...most of what she said
was probably true.
1:23:37
There's a lot I didn't understand.
1:23:40
There's a lot
I'd do different if I could...
1:23:43
...just like there's a lot you wish
you could change but can't.
1:23:46
Some things, once they're done,
can't be undone.
1:23:50
My wife--
1:23:52
My ex-wife says she loves Billy
and I believe she does.
1:23:58
But I don't think
that's the issue here.