:29:04
Yes; I do.
:29:06
Maciek tried to convince me to
return to making films.
:29:12
Life here; being an activist;
means civil death.
:29:17
You are beyond the law; even
though you don't break it.
:29:22
Sometimes it's very hard.
:29:29
But when you get used to it;
it can be fun sometimes.
:29:34
Yes.
:29:36
There are these amusing
situations.
:29:40
And you meet and work with
wonderful people.
:29:46
You enjoy fooling undercover cops.
:29:50
The really nice thing is not
being afraid of anything.
:29:56
Even in the slammer you know at
least they can't lock you up.
:30:06
Exactly.
:30:10
How'd you get by?
:30:14
You know what it was like.
:30:16
I came here the first time...
:30:20
Iooking for Birkut; not knowing
that he was already dead.
:30:26
Maciek...
:30:28
was working as a welder
at the shipyard then.
:30:31
I didn't know the police had
jailed and beaten him.
:30:35
I had explored the 50s and never
really seen the present.
:30:38
I had no idea of the conditions
Polish workers worked in.
:30:42
I'll tell you how a welder works
in the double hull of a ship.
:30:46
You needn't; I've been a reporter
for 16 years.
:30:49
Without it; you won't understand.
It's what's most important.
:30:56
I met Maciek outside
the shipyard.
:30:59
He told me how his
father had died.