1:15:00
I took the case because I know Terry
Childers. His word is his bond.
1:15:03
He told me he did
what he had to do.
1:15:07
Now, I hope
I don't let him down.
1:15:13
We sent Terry Childers out
on a very tough mission.
1:15:17
And when it went bad,
1:15:19
and he did everything he could
to save the lives of his marines,
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save the lives
of the embassy people,
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you turn around now and want
to blame the whole mess on him,
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send him to prison possibly
for the rest of his life.
1:15:36
That's not fair.
1:15:39
It's not right.
1:15:43
It is what made me sick
this morning.
1:15:47
It was a large crowd.
1:15:49
There was a lot of commotion.
The noise was very unsettling.
1:15:53
But it was
a peaceful crowd.
1:15:55
That is, until Colonel Childers
arrived and prevented me...
1:15:58
from pursuing
further avenues of diplomacy.
1:16:00
Did Colonel Childers
force you to leave the embassy?
1:16:02
Yes. He charged in.
1:16:04
He... started
pushing us around.
1:16:08
He physically restrained me
from doing my job.
1:16:11
What was his state
of mind at this time?
1:16:13
He was in a fury.
1:16:14
He was disrespectful
to me and my family.
1:16:16
Oh, that's bullshit.
1:16:18
It was almost, how should I say,
a murderous rage.
1:16:21
Do you remember what he said?
1:16:23
I remember he said
something like...
1:16:25
diplomacy is bullshit
at this point...
1:16:27
"and that ""nobody fucks
with the American flag""."
1:16:31
- Those were his words.
- Thank you, Ambassador.
1:16:33
No further questions.
1:16:35
Do you believe...
1:16:38
that an American embassy
on foreign soil...
1:16:40
is sovereign
United States territory?
1:16:41
As a general principle, yes.
1:16:43
Do you believe Americans
have a right...
1:16:45
to defend that territory
if it's attacked?
1:16:47
If it is, in fact,
attacked.
1:16:49
Would you have expected
Colonel Childers to surrender...
1:16:52
to the attacking crowd
or to fight them?
1:16:54
I would have expected neither.
1:16:55
The colonel should have let me
address the crowd,
1:16:57
then he could have withdrawn
his marines.
1:16:59
Would you have expected him
to hold his fire as he withdrew,