:46:03
There wasn't much enthusiasm
to defend ToIbukhin.
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I saw it as a professionaI chaIIenge.
:46:09
I was younger then.
:46:12
I defended anyone
for the experience
:46:16
and the chaIIenge of
decIaring them innocent.
:46:20
ToIbukhin, in his confession
:46:23
before the court said:
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''I have kiIIed 1 7 other women.''
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And he added this detail:
:46:30
The women were pregnant.
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And all these 1 7 women,
:46:35
were kiIIed in the Iast 1 2 years,
:46:40
whiIe he traveIIed the worId
:46:43
as a merchant marine.
:46:45
He says he burned them.
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But when two of the women's
bodies were exhumed,
:46:51
pIastics bags were found
on their heads.
:46:54
And traces of gamezan in their hair.
:46:57
Gamezan was used by
the miIitary during the war
:47:00
to make peopIe confess.
:47:02
The women had no signs of burns.
:47:06
The women had died
from other causes.
:47:10
The Hungarian consuIate
in Mexico toId us that
:47:13
they had records of
an Aro ToIbukhin.
:47:16
We identified him
in Guatemala as Aro Tolbukhin.
:47:20
But this information didn't match
:47:22
what Tolbukhin told us
about himself and his family.
:47:28
He wasn't telling the truth.
:47:30
Not even about his own identity.
:47:33
Why did you choose
pregnant women?
:47:40
They say you didn't
kiII those women.
:47:45
Who knows better than I do?
:47:50
Why did you burn them?
:47:54
Did you have a reason?