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If you're not going to protect
your family, who is?
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- We're not racist,
we're not extremist,
:11:07
we're not fundamentalist, we're
not terrorists or militants
:11:10
or other such nonsense.
- We're citizens.
:11:13
- We're just concerned citizens.
We have a desire
:11:16
to fulfil our responsibilities
and duties as Americans,
:11:18
and armed citizenry
is part of that.
:11:26
- What do you grow here?
- Right now, there's tofu beans,
:11:32
soy beans. Tofu-soy beans.
:11:34
- You're a tofu farmer.
- Yeah. Yeah, food farmer.
:11:38
I'm a food farmer.
- Food.
:11:39
- I grow food for people to eat.
:11:42
No herbicides, no pesticides
on that stuff.
:11:45
- Right. All natural.
- Right.
:11:47
- Yeah. Better.
- Certified organic.
:11:50
- Uh-huh. Healthier.
- Yeah.
:11:51
Basically, yeah.
:11:53
This is James Nichols,
the brother of Terry Nichols.
:11:57
James graduated from high
school the same year I did,
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in the district next to mine.
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On this farm
in Decker, Michigan,
:12:04
McVeigh and the Nichols
brothers made practice bombs
:12:06
before Oklahoma City.
:12:09
Terry and James were both
arrested in connection
:12:12
to the bombing.
[ TV news ]: U.S. attorneys
:12:14
formally linked the Nichols
brothers of Michigan
:12:17
with Oklahoma bomb suspect
Timothy McVeigh.
:12:19
Officials charged James,
who was at the hearing,
:12:21
and Terry, who was not,
with conspiring
:12:23
to make and possess
small bombs.
:12:26
- Terry Nichols was convicted
and received a life sentence.
:12:29
Timothy McVeigh was executed.
But the feds
:12:33
didn't have the goods on James,
:12:35
so the charges were dropped.
- I'm just glad
:12:38
to be out and free,
so I can get on with my life.
:12:41
- Did Timothy McVeigh
ever stay here?
:12:43
- Yes. Yes. He stayed here
several times.
:12:46
For the longest period, about
three months or so, I dunno.
:12:49
But, uh, he was a nice guy.
:12:50
- Decent guy?
- Oh, yeah.
:12:52
- They didn't find anything
on this farm.
:12:54
- As to what,
:12:55
bomb-making material?
- Any kind of explosives.
:12:57
- Uh, yeah, I had blasting caps,
dynamite blasting caps,